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  1. #1
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    Creating SEO URL's without generating HTML pages

    Hi, I am trying to setup my Sunshop cart to have SEO friendly URL's in a format like:
    http://storename.com/category-name/product-name (for product pages)
    http://storename.com/category-name (for category pages)
    http://storename.com/page-name (for regular content pages)

    I read this article:
    http://my.twt-inc.com/knowledgebase/...TML-pages.html

    From this I hoped it would be a start, and I could modify it to suit from there, but this didnt work at all.
    The URL's were getting changed to something like "http://storename.com/catalogue/product-name.html" but the page would not load.

    Could anyone provide some advice on what could be going wrong?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by simongill View Post
    Hi, I am trying to setup my Sunshop cart to have SEO friendly URL's in a format like:
    Could anyone provide some advice on what could be going wrong?

    Thanks
    My advice is for you to abandon the outdated notion that search engines don't like dynamic links, which Sunshop uses by default. That may have been true several years ago, but I can't think of a single modern-day search engine that doesn't know how to handle dynamic links as effectively as static links. I've personally used both, and I will tell you that Sunshop's dynamic links are so SEO-friendly that my dynamic pages often rank higher than any of my previous static-link counterparts. Seriously, this isn't worth your trouble - dynamic links are the new web standard because the web has evolved...and thus so have search engines.

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    Pooch is right. In fact we just helped one customer change back to dynamic links because they were getting better results from it.

    If you still fill you wish to proceed though, make sure you have the .htaccess in place, otherwise the mod will not work.
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    Unfortunately I have no say in the matter, the SEO specialist has made the request and I have to follow his orders.
    I made sure the htaccess file was done properly but it still didnt work.

    Even if doing these type of URL's doesnt improve or detract SEO, one benefit is that it looks a little bit more professional from a customer point of view, and especially when it comes to sharing links and on social media.

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    Please open a ticket so that we can get your infomration and take a look for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TWT-Chris View Post
    Please open a ticket so that we can get your infomration and take a look for you.
    How's it going everyone,

    We are currently having the same issue, we completely understand that having dynamic URL's wont hurt search results, we just feel from a user experience point of view it is much nicer to have readable text in the url. I have opened a ticket and essentially we went back and forth to try and figure out what the issue is, we even gave the sunshop team our server info to try and go in and check everything out, essentially sunshop responded that they have no idea why it wasn't working : /

    We understand that if we have too, we will use dynamic URL's, but i honestly think this part of the software could use a little more attention...I understand there are more important things to keep up on, like security and the shop working lolf, but this could be a really nice feature and it seems like no one can get it to work in its current state

    Thanks again

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    skevthedev,

    Please understand that mod_rewrite is not supported by all servers. The code we provide works perfectly fine provided that the server actually is setup to support mod rewrite and not all do. This is especially the case with windows servers running IIS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skevthedev View Post
    How's it going everyone,

    ...we just feel from a user experience point of view it is much nicer to have readable text in the url.
    I've seen this statement twice within this thread and I'd like to comment on it. Many major retail sites use dynamic links. As a shopper myself, I pay no attention to the aesthetics in the URL. I can't imagine losing business because someone didn't like the way a URL link looked. People care about one thing on websites; getting the information or product they want, then leaving. The more simplified you can make that experience should be top priority. This of course is just my 2-cents, but I will say you only need to look at the most successful online websites to see that dynamic links pose no aesthetic issue for the user...just website designers.

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    What would be the best way to convert back from years of using html to the dynamic type?
    This specifically in regards to preserving the ser's of older pages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johndelk View Post
    What would be the best way to convert back from years of using html to the dynamic type?
    This specifically in regards to preserving the ser's of older pages.
    If this is in reference to Sunshop, then use mod_rewrite to change the static links to the way Sunshop would output them as dynamic links. This isn't my specialty, and many have a tough time understanding the coding to do this correctly, but it's possible nonetheless. Here's some information about mod_rewrite. After you do that successfully, then change your Sunshop's settings to output dynamic links. Eventually your site will be recrawled and the new dynamic links will prevail.

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    Its been my experience that most servers have problem with SunShop's provided Mod Rewrite. Mod Rewrite is a science for the most part and if the server is not setup in a way to allow things just so, then the code has to be tweaked, sometimes dramatically. Sometimes it can never be made to work.

    Without naming any hosting companies, I can say that most of the "bigger" ones do not like the default code, there are some that do, but many do not.

    My suggestion to you is, if you have to have this. Either find a programmer and see if the code can be modified, or change hosting companies to one that supports the default code. All it takes is a simple ticket to their support department with the code provided, and they should be able to tell you if it will run correctly.
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    let me clarify. I had been running the html setting for years and years but the hassle of trying to regenerate 20k html pages and having old pages with wrong prices floating around was getting to me. I changed it over recently to dynamic. I have updated the sitemap . I just wonder if I should do more or let it ride and wait and see.



    Quote Originally Posted by johndelk View Post
    What would be the best way to convert back from years of using html to the dynamic type?
    This specifically in regards to preserving the ser's of older pages.

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    Personally, I'd just sit tight and allow the search engines to remove the old page links. To my knowledge, those pages shouldn't be viewable anymore, but if you haven't already I'd delete the html file folder (catalog?). I just recently reworked an old static site to dynamic and google has already done a good job of adding the dynamic links and removing some of the older html pages...it's only been 1 week!

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    I did delete the old html file as part of the conversion and submitted a new sitemap. Goggle and Bing have already picked up some of the new pages.

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